When it calls for heat the damper opens and the pilot ignites but the main burner will not activate. I replace the whole unit and can not get the pilot to re-light. Association (CSA) to the following standards: Powered damper water heater controls (13 pages), Powered direct vent gas water heater (44 pages), Bathroom heater with towel rail (78 pages), Manual will be automatically added to "My Manuals", Troubleshooting with Status Light Visual Indication, Mounting the WT8840 on the Water Heater Tank, Procedure to Check the Gas Input and Burner Flow Rate, Troubleshooting Without Status Indicator Assistance, Troubleshooting Guide Without Status Light, Troubleshooting with status light visual indication, Water Heater Honeywell WV4262B Installation Instructions Manual, Water Heater Honeywell BH-777FTE User Instructions, Water Heater Honeywell VE300S Installation Instructions Manual. David Boone-you are a godsend. I reset the temp to my standard setting and it heated up fine. NEVER TO BE PURCHASED AGAIN. Whirlpool sent me the upgraded replacement. NOTE: the 7-flash error seemed to last for quite awhile but eventually went to a normal single flash. Opens in a new window or tab. Ive been reading through all this information, but other than learning the honeywell unit is a POS, I havent figured out my problem. Who came up with the dumbass design that when you turn the dial to a normal, albeit high, position, it breaks the water heater? Resetting the #$%@!! Maybe it should be Teflon coated if that interaction is suspect? So far, so good but was looking up things that could go wrong and found this page. Resetting the #$%@!! Thanks all and internet! Pull the three wire connector off the circuit board by pulling it straight out. I tried all the solutions that people had suggested and still had the 4 blink problem. I too thought no big deal to turn my water heater up ONE NOTCH!!! The valve location is high enough on the tank that sediment likely wont interfere with its temperature sensing ability; 2. Youll save money and aggravation in the long term. I touched the two top ones. Is there a replacement gas valve that people have had success with? Still no flashes.) Let the pilot without the chip wires plugged in then turned it off. Miller 3/4" Grip. Turns out painting and cleaning the basement tripped a code 7 flashes. Why doesnt Lowes carry repair parts for the water heaters they sell? I told her I would, but more I think about it, F that! It has a stainless steel protective cover. I cant think of how many brands of water heaters use the same honeywell gas valve. Select a Model: Gas Control Trade Replacement Valve. Get a contractor model. The note is just a comment I know it really does not apply to your situation. Got it the next day, installed it. Thanks so much. About this product. Something a major of an appliance like this cant barely go a year without working. w~{c=?Y=R}N',8+*Skw:,q7o{v%NnxpwQNZy ZpRe"n:o [KA8tX#aW:Y{HbTna+]U. It cant flip up (actually it can if you try hard enough, but then youve probably broken it). I had the unit replaced. It did not need to be reset (zero resistance across the terminals). I tried the other methods to discharge the caps etc Those Methods did not work. The combo of using the battery trick as well as just running wires from the posts rather than unscrewing the module worked perfectly. Didnt work first time but tried it again and let board set for 10 minutes unplugged before relighting pilot. Using a flat tip screwdriver remove the bottom screw that holds the housing on. My Kenmore water heater is controlled by the Honeywell Gas Valve (part # 9007884), which contains the WV8840 Communication Port. This one honeywell water heater thermostat is completely a lemon.. OK just replace with newer updated green computer board without the sensor.. New ones dont have Sensor clip or wire. Now the replacement goes on the fritz. Turn the temp knob all the way to High, down to VAC, up to High, down to VAC and then to HOT Function: The gas valve is a low voltage control (usually 24 VAC) that allow gas into the combustion chamber. Heater is only 7 months old. $211.94. Now I have two fail in 27 months. I hope it helps someone. Most Honeywell water heaters with electric gas valves need just 12 volts for the valve to work. I had worked on a water heater that was in a flooded basement and had to open up the sealed combustion chamber, remove the burner/pilot/ignitor/thermopile assembly and dry out the ignitor with a hair dryer for about 15 minutes before it was capable of showing a spark again. Just to let everyone know, the above fix by DB works! This may be rather new as Honeywell does not even have a WV8840C listed yet (or it may be an OEM spec valve which is proprietary and not published. So since my controller is under warranty I will get a new one, may pay $10 for shipping or try and find one in town where they charge Honeywell directly, they gave me a special number to give to the store. They dont want to send any more parts until I pay someone to come look at it. I have a newer version. Thats the problem, not Honeywell they just build a piece of crap (in China). Im keeping your method in my hip pocket, though, because it is much simpler. faile, hot water thermostat is not cutting off at preset, My water heater has a Honeywell WV8840B1109 contro, My WV8840B1109 flashes a "High Temp Shutdown" code, where do I hook up my vent controls on my new Hone, honeywell n40t91403 water heater not lighting, Can I get a manual for a Honeywell product #WV8840, pilot light blink 4 times every 3 seconds says ove, The pilot light went out and we gave not been able, Gas is shooting out of the hotwater thermostate, to connect hot water heaters with Honeywell themos, Copyright 2020 Inmar-OIQ, LLC All Rights Reserved. light the pilot and you still get the 7 flashes; however the water heater kicks back on and gets back up to temperature and shuts off as normal and you will see that your light now only flashes 1 time every 3 or 4 seconds. Set the dial to a reasonable temperature that wont upset the finicky little thing, and you should be good to go. The two upper pins of V push out of the cover and have doughnut shaped gaskets to seal gases. i followed your instructions and bingo! I hear a click when the pilot tube opens but no 2nd click for the main tube. It replaces the old part numbers listed below. So I called and paid the $30 to get a new one delivered the day after Christmas. The WT8840 Water Heater Control is designed for use in Standing Pilot applications using an immersion well for water temperature sensing. This happened again a day or 2 later and again, after a short while, the status led reverted back from the 5-flash red to the 1-flash blue. Rey and the Magic Amulet is a fantasy for younger readers. I too will never buy another hot water heater with a Honeywell valve! Within a couple minutes it reverted to 1 flash, and is working fine. Wish Id read deeper in the thread to try jumping the valve with wire. Not only that, but people return their old ones, and parts of them at least can probably be reused in new hundred-plus dollar valves. w.c.) maximum inlet pressure, Body Pattern: 90 degrees with 1/2 in. I will be calling the Whirlpool number to see if I can get a replacement valve unit before this one goes out for good! Repeat these steps with the new gas valve. This is the second time I have had the dreaded four blink failure in a 30 Gal. DO NOT buy a water heater from Lowes. Rotate the knob to 9 oclock to see if it will fire up on its own. Worked like a charm with an old AA battery & a couple of bread ties, thanks for for sharing the knowledge! The water heater is a Kenmore and I called Sears but they only wanted to send out a service worker for $79 to diagnosis the water heater although I explained numberous times that the water heater is OK It is the controller that failed. correction on part where my friend bets me $100 its the thermo pile should have read Valve. I did read here that a service man said to not go above hot setting. The same issues and the dreaded 4 flashes of death. I have dealt with the dreaded 4 blinks three times. This time I turned to this forum. As ColdShowerMan noted, there are differences in the new design they sent me. You can only find the entire assembly. With the new unit, since it goes into the water tank itself, do you need to drain all the water from the tank before replacing it? in about 3 years. It has lasted about a year then gave the 4 blink code again. They charged me $30 to ship a new white light control valve and i installed it. I pay $30 for overnight shipping for a replacement unit. I followed the the rest of the instructions and got my 1-flash Normal Operation going and the heater is working properly now. My plan was to fix it Saturday and replace the entire unit with the new one. These things foul the sensor causing the 4 blink death light pattern. Can a control valve partially fail like this? Now, instead of the 4-blink I had a seven blink. Oh, I see. Another comment when I finally got a replacement from Amazon, the LED light was White in color, not RED as my last two. So are you saying that you got yours from the MFR? A huge thank you to Tyler, Loreleaf and everyone who has contributed here. Chapters Replacing Honeywell WV8840B1042 WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 with WT8840B1000 5 flash blink error problem Nathan LeMarbe 592 subscribers Subscribe 4.7K views 2 years ago Just finished. I shorted the 2 pins on top of the module base for maybe 30 seconds. Ill call for the replacement to have on hand and keep the instructions. I have the same set up as rdarnitall on 31 December 2014 at 7:28 pm and I just wanted to say thanks for that reset procedure, it worked for me. A good business would be to offer a replacement board that has been restored for use to customers blessed with this hunk of junk! Okay. I had to be transferred to water heater division and wait on hold a while but it was well worth it.). any help???? Not much of a DIYer am i but after reading about this scam Honeywell has going on about these modules i had to try this and besides how many more cold showers can one man take..My results? You need to drain the tank completely because the valve sensor is about one inch diameter probe that screws into the side of the tank from the back of the valve. does this mean I have to replace the entire valve? Push for 5 seconds then light fixed mine. As for Kenmore and Sears they would send a replacement part our for $185.00 and 2-5 days delivery or since the part is under warranty I could pay $79.00 and wait for a service appointment, then wait for the replacement part to be shipped for me to install. I am now an expert at gas valves. Thank goodness I found this site. Ive been keeping an eye on the heater ever since installing, so I was able to notice this. Removal of the 3 pin wire to the control board and pilot restart did Not work for me with the Honeywell White Light Gas Valve. What is the easiest way to mimic the thermopile 750 milli volt so I can get the brains working without the pilot on. If you havent done it in a while, theres a very good chance that it will help solve whatevers going on. The new valve seemed to act the same way except without the main burner lite, out , and relite. Followed your procedure to a T. I called GE because Honeywell said to. blue light 65 . On relighting, I got the dreaded 4 blinks. free! I cleaned burner and vents as well. Still working so far. Be sure the pilot stays on before continuing. The unit will go to 7 blinks initially, but the burners will kick on and after a bit will revert to 1 blink every few seconds (normal operation). I finally decided I would remove the burner unit & giveit a thorough cleaning (blow, brush & vacuum the screen) in the morning. thank u CT. U and DB are $$ saversfor now anyway..LOL! I have to say that thhis is amazing. Where is it located exactly? But get this They now want owners to drain and flush their tanks every 6 months so calcium will not build up on the sensors! I cant believe they sent me a dud. Last year I had the blinks. Definitely will be draining sediment as a preventive measure later this week. There have been several of us who have successfully brought this Honeywell water heater controller back to life. When I checked the water heater the status light was not blinking at all. After removing the controller board and the wires, I had to reattach it to light the pilot light. What your friend did to fix your problem temporarily, was press the reset button on the safety interlock probably located on the access cover of the heating chamber. Read all these posts Sunday and tried the unplugging of the board then relighting pilot. The next steps may void the warranty, and Now DISCLAIMER: Do not try this at home: Use a Multimeter to check the voltage drop across the valve. No brown or other weird looking water. light the pilot and you still get the 7 flashes; however the water heater kicks back on and gets back up to temperature and shuts off as normal and you will see that your light now only flashes 1 time every 3 or 4 seconds. It may take a minute or so before the heating element comes on; be patient. By the time I returned (maybe 30 minutes later), the led had returned to its normal blue 1-flash mode. Both times there was VERY LITTLE sludge in the bottom of the water heater. 4. As the days moved on, it continued happening more frequently and each time the red 5-flash error condition persisted longer and longer before resetting itself. (With the three wire plug OFF and the pilot on I was getting a 7 code only.) As many others have suggested, perhaps this is the event which started the fail process? Thats what this sounds like and shorting across it is perfectly OK. The Water heater will appear to be working now, but in a several seconds it will figure out that something is wrong, and it will shutdown the pilot valve and the fire will shut off. Now the light changed from flashing 4 times to flashing 7 times. It is a V pattern. Again, because Im somewhat inexperienced at this stuff, I found that there is a different teflon tape used for Gas than in plumbing. Direct Replacement: Gas Control Valve Kit (Natural Gas) Brand: AO Smith SKU: 100112336 ( 70) In Stock Get 304 Thu, Mar 2 Order by 4PM, receive 304 by Thursday VIEW REPLACEMENT Product Highlights - Natural Gas Description - Thanks forcreating this site! For two years I would drain out 5 gallons of water every two months to remove sediment. Isnt there any way to tell the gas valve to quit having a hissy fit and get back to work? All models of WT8840 include an integrated NTC temperature sensor. Falcon Edge Self-Retracting Lifelines. Bought my Whirlpool at Lowes. my water heater pilot light went out. This is huge the most important post. I turned the knob to the on position and the burner kicked on. Last one. When drained completely,the bottom held a white goo that had a slimy feel with crystals. Give me a break. I was successful in clearing the fault code from my Honeywell WV8840B1109 Supply Valve Controller simply by utilizing the single jumper wire method as described in the post from CrankyTenants. Check closely to see if you have a spark. But, dont buy a water heater from the DIY in any case. Got the ominous 4 flash a couple days ago after turning heat up too high. controller). What top left and right pins, can you show a picture. So this is the only site I could find regarding this stupid gas valve!!! 3: Snap the cover back onto the heater (so you can light the pilot-light). 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