Try it. This makes the cartridge too long for a .38 Special cylinder to close and lock most of the time. Dad served in AF during Korean conflict. I shoot 38+p in them at times and it is all the recoil that I want. Taken from Speer's Plus p data on 38 special plus p. The max V V-3n37 load for 125 jhps of 7.2 grains is low flash and very accurate. Back in the 1970’s some made self-defense ammo using 148 grain hollow base wad cutters loaded backwards. Can anyone give me more info on this gun?
The key was the low pressure which allowed handgun manufacturers to build small-framed handguns that were not made to shoot any “hot” high pressure ammo.
Vithavouri N-320 and N-340 are also good in this regard. Titegroup works fine for me, but my new favorite is Clays for 38 special. If i makes you feel better go ahead, but the BB std pressure won"t be any easier on your gun than Remington +P since it's not really the pressure so much as the force of recoil that stretches the frames and beats up the lockwork.
I want to carry this little Colt because it is so light and a very nicely manufactured handgun, so I went looking for something a little bit meaner and harder on the bad-guys but still safe on my old Colt.
I'll soon be experimenting with my new pound of SR4756. Putting a .357 Magnum round in a .38 Special takes the firearm from hand gun to … I own a S&W Model 38 Airweight Bodyguard made in 1971. My father-in-law gave me an old Colt Police Positive Special revolver made in the 1920s. Unique and Power Pistol have much bigger flashes in this application. 1. Gun Deals: MFT 30 Round 5.56 NATO Polymer AR15 Magazines $9.99 Each, Gun Deals: Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8X24mm Rifle Scope w/ Mount $394.99 FREE S&H CODE, Gun Deals: LSI Citadel Boss-25 AR-12 Gauge, Semi-automatic, Shotgun $474.99 FREE S&H, Pre-Order: 50 Round Boxes Winchester 9mm Luger 124grain, FMJ Ammunition $17.99, CMMG Bravo 22 LR AR Conversion Kit – The First Kit That Doesn’t Suck ~VIDEO, What “Unsigning” the Arms Trade Treaty Means for American Gun Owners ~ VIDEO, Daily Gun Deal: Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 SportRifle .22LR Magpul MBUS sights $449.99, The “Other” Model ’94 Lever Action Rifle: Marlin 94 Rifle, Second Amendment Makes Clear: Americans Are Not Subservient To Government – Part Two, Arkansas Passes Significant NFA Gun Law Reforms in 2019.
Remember if you are engaging questionable DNA in the middle of a dark parking lot most likely it is at a very scary close proximity.
Back in the 1970’s a common practice was to load inverted 148 grain hollow base wad cutters for defensive use. Manufactured between 1905 and 1920. Hi. Am using this load with Rem 38 special 125 grain Golden Sabers for about 1040 fps from 4 in 38 special. For the non-gun person who happens to own a small frame 38 Special revolver, who really does not want to do in-depth research on ammunition consider Buffalo Bore ammo. It is all about shot placement. Anybody have suggestions for a powder that has low flash characteristics? It can attack the bad DNA and provide you a renewed and enhanced capability for your older vintage handguns. (Non +P) 2. Jacketed Hollow Point (900fps/M.E. Good article! Am using this load with Rem 38 special 125 grain Golden Sabers for about 1040 fps from 4 in 38 special. He believes “evil hates organization.” [email protected]. Flash seems to be a product of the nitroglycerin content of double based powders. http://shootingwithhobie.blogspot.com/2009/01/p-phenomenon-by-saxonpig.html, https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=111, https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=110.
How about Talcum Powder - no flash - guaranteed! carry ammo and tested it to demonstrate how these modern loads perform. Back in the day, I hand-loaded 38 Special ammo as hot as I could safely get away with. The old , “A.45 will tear somebodies arm off” is a fantasy created by MORONS that don’t know squat about guns, what they are capable of and what they are NOT capable of. If they make it to the ER before dying 95% survive. Soft Lead SWC-HC (850fps/M.E. My question regards powders that have a low flash signature for a .38 Special +P load with 125 grain Hornady XTP. I'm also a fan of Vihta Vuori N320. When you shoot it into a paper target it passes through as if you used a paper hole-punch to make very clean .357 diameter holes in the target. said: “Enter Buffalo Bore (buffalobore.com) and their low pressure 38 Special ammo,” The cost is prohibitive. These are the current best of the best, with one old …
And it is Strictly Business. What's the second best powder for 38 special. I recently came across a 38 5 shot revolver.
I'm not saying it's excessively flashy like Power Pistol but it's not low flash.
Currently I'm using W-231 in a S&W M-27, 6 inch barrel.
Meriden Arms was the actual manufacture. - 20 Round Box. In the end it is about stopping the bad DNA without harming yourself. said: “You will be shocked at how many older and more, disappointed at how many new manufactured 38 Specials revolvers prohibit high velocity ammunition.” I’ve been loading 148 gr wad cutters for both my carry guns: A S&W Bodyguard and a S&W Mod. I find that it's good for .45 ACP +P and some .45 Colt +P. I have played around with lots of stuff and have about 10 kinds in house but for the last 3 years I have used over 24 pounds. I have been reloading for over 30 years and my new favorite powder is Titegroup. Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with, Find all threads started by Ben_hutcherson. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Small, compact, easy to carry and fire. ........ You must be shooting in low light conditions to even see much flash from W231. I'll have to order a box or five for sure.
A retired Colorado Ranger and currently is an Auxiliary Police Officer with the Cudahy PD in Milwaukee County, WI. This particular powder looks promising, although I've not seen any and a quick google search indicates that it's not yet shipping. AFAIK, 700X and 800X are the only two powders IMR makes that are double based, the rest are single based.
The load is comfortable with very manageable recoil but the flash coming from the sides of the cylinder is considerable. Hard to find ammunition. Shooting the .357 in the Model 60 is out of the question for her. When you look at the loaded cartridge it appears that someone cut off the end of the lead. So you are sitting there saying to yourself who cares, everyone shoots a Glock 9mm now-a-days? However, you can always take a hard look at what Buffalo Bore 38 Special ammo that is made in standard pressure, can do for you. I hear you can do wonderful things with SR4756 and the .38 Special. I have 357 mag revolvers and you can shoot 38 Special ammo out of the 357 mag. About Major Van Harl USAF Ret.
Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. And .45s,,.40 S&Ws, .357 magnums have FAILED to put down lots of bad guys.
Want less flash, use less powder. Standard Pressure Short Barrel Low Flash Heavy .38 Special Ammo - 125gr.
Would this ammo in this article be safe, and… Read more ». reply: High velocity is not the issue for old 38 special revolvers. So, many are sold, because it is small. This is not a new idea. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. I was hoping the low recoil ammo in the 442 would be more comfortable and something she might warm up to, and get efficient at shooting. Wisconsin –-(Ammoland.com)- I had not owned a 38 Special revolver in twenty years. Pressure that many 38 Special revolvers were not designed to handle. 253 ft. Would like to know safest cartridge for this older gun. as well. High pressure is the issue… hence the +P meaning higher pressure. have about 10 kinds in house but for the last 3 years I have used over 24 pounds. I disagree. Longshot isn't low flash and it's very LOUD too. I sure am glad it was free, because I haven't found anything it was usable in. Eastern Arms Co. Is stamped on the barrel. The Mod. It is a FACT that 80% of gunshot victims survive. - 20 Round Box. Standard Pressure Short Barrel Low Flash Heavy .38 Special Ammo - 158 gr. Don’t think that just because you can shoot .38 Special in a .357 Magnum that the reverse is true. Thanks for all the responses--very helpful advice! What you need to understand is the number one selling handgun in the country is a small framed 5 shot 38 Special revolver. My research tells me this company was owned by Sears and was basically a trading name in which they sold these pistols and shotguns. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. It won't hurt older/fragile/alloy revolvers. reply: Buffalo Bore non +P is standard pressure… not low pressure. Women love them because they are light and small and fit into the tiniest purse. He was the Deputy Chief of police at two Air Force Bases and the Commander of Law Enforcement Operations at another.
60 for years. couple minor corrections: So, keep as a home defense weapon. You will be shocked at how many older and more, disappointed at how many new manufactured 38 Specials revolvers prohibit high velocity ammunition. I frequently carry either a Colt Detective or S&W 642 and like the idea of an effective load. Pressure and velocity are used interchangeably in the article, but are not the same.
lbs.) You will appreciate the savings on your purchase of one of the 12 Federal Premium 38 Special Ammunition offered at such competitive prices at OpticsPlanet.. Massive bullet expansion without excessive penetration. DEPENDABLE Details such as nickel-plated cases that resist corrosion and optimized propellants that burn quickly to reduce recoil and limit muzzle flash, help ensure that Critical Defense® ammo is dependable in every situation. Liking that SWC from Buffalo. Maintained a SW .38 Non Police. It is flat and smooth and looks a bit “different” from all the other store bought ammo you have, but it is really effective stuff. Back in the day, I hand-loaded 38 Special ammo as hot as I could safely get away with. As usual, start lower and work up. 60 will shoot .357s and the Bodyguard can handle .38 spl.+P, but I can shoot the wad cutter load much more effectively in these lightweight weapons. Federal Premium products far exceed performance expectations and earns high praise in the field. Bright nickel-plated cartridge cases simplify chamber checks in reduced light, and low-flash propellants help preserve night vision.
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