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Thanks for your coverage of this fine design. The primer drag talk is silly and the “barrel peening” I have seen seems to be an issue with coating, not design. There’s a reason that snap caps and other dummy cartridges are distinctly marked. My next project is a slicked-up Cimarron 1873 Trapper levergun, 9+1 as fast as the short-stroke kit can pump out. We're the best resource to help responsible Americans keep their loved ones safe. Glad you enjoyed the article. I fill my magazines with cartridges that have 180 grain bullets which do not deflect appreciably when hitting auto windshields at oblique angles. In fact, it was the polar opposite. That’s exactly what I did with my 442. If a body absorbs 600ft/lbs of energy it is going to suffer more damage than if it absorbs 350ft/lbs of energy. So that’s the distance I “regulate” my sights and ammunition for …. Now I’m asking, “why didn’t I think of that?!”. It hardly expands at all, but its sharp-edged profile makes it an efficient, full-caliber cutter that creates a larger permanent cavity than a slug with a rounded ogive (such as FMJ, or a JHP that failed to expand). True a rifle bullet traveling at 3000fps is going to create a lot more ‘hydrostatic shock’ than a handgun bullet traveling at 1500fps, but that in turn creates a lot more than a bullet traveling at 850fps. In my own personal experience in training. A target velocity factory 148-gr. Jon, I understand the concern, but think the real issue is poor safety habits. In that case it may make sense to shoot your attacker through a couch, chair, or even an interior door or wall. A typo I didn’t catch prior to submission: a high percentage of loads tested by LG and then shows means a good selection of self defense loads. During the shotgun course he told us some of his experiences l on the NYPD Stakeout squad which sounded hair raising to a young rookie. Nope. Thanks for the heads up about this article. In police work, that’s called a clue. One of these days, hopefully several decades from now, I’ll have to shelve the hand cannons. These will ensure adequate penetration and still deliver a respectable wound track via mechanisms unique to their “Phillips-head” design. All of these loads still have very mild recoil, but if I was choosing one for self-defense, I would want one of the faster loads out of this batch just to make sure I get that penetration we’re looking for. Our friend isn’t there yet, and if we had stuffed the chambers of that LCR full of Magnum ammo, I can guarantee it wouldn’t have been pretty or effective. Even then, they’re usually based on duty sized handguns. Mainly by Marshall and Sanow but also Ayoob. Controllable for recoil, excellent accuracy – I really like it a lot. But! Excellent, timely and informative article! All Rights Reserved. Hoo boy, words of wisdom there, Mike NmW! Ballistics gel is a good way to provide a standard medium for comparison, but I’m still a bit skeptical that it accurately represents real-world results. 4. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2688536. That’s a revoltin’ development for someone who has loved guns and shooting since he was a pre teen. Find something you enjoy shooting, can carry, and will practice with. .45 and .357, on the other hand, send those things back with AUTHORITY. I can personally say that they are indeed great rounds to use despite what other experts say. 2:  Kimber K6s, 2” barrel you can put twice the powder behind the .357 slug as you can the 9mm slug). Instead, I’d look for a .38 Special load that I could control well enough to guarantee accuracy and fast follow-ups. The typical, low power, soft lead, target load does around 600-700 fps out of a snubby revolver, and penetrates around 16 inches in bare, calibrated gelatin. As an aside, I have “Chicago Loads” in my speed loaders. We bullet nerds sometimes have a tendency to lose the forest through the trees. All the other loads are loaded to well below SAAMI max pressure. I was not there, but I have to wonder about his shot placement. For the record I loved my G19 and hated several other Sigs (Original trigger P320, MCX and ffs the Mosquito…) so no fan boy here but there is no other carry piece on the market that works better for me than the P365. The link is to a paper (2004 date) with a concise history of LEA (Law Enforcement Agency) firearm practices, weapons and training. And a little better than a sharp stick. Buffalo Bore +p+ 9mm and their hot 357. If I had not found RevolverGuy, with special kudos to Mike, I would be shooting ammo some person at the gun store told me was the latest and greatest and best SD ammo EVER. Thank you for that. I got one at about 30yds (4 shots, one connected, not a great example of marksmanship), the rest scattered. I really appreciate your comments and I’m glad you’re enjoying the site. I would think many in Special Forces would perform even better under stress. vampires or mother-in -laws…… that being said, one thing I’ve learned from the gun and According to the FBI, we can only rely on the narrow channel of damage that an expanded handgun bullet produces; meaning, a round placed into the left lung of a bad guy isn’t going to create a violent over-pressure and collapse his right lung. Hard Air Magazine also uses soap for the impact section of our pellet test reviews. You can also count Daryl Bolke in that group. And that’s on top of being shot with a 9mm! A raccoon might be a pretty meaningful test medium… They are tough critters. Ballistics gel is a good way to provide a standard medium for comparison, but I’m still a bit skeptical that it accurately represents real-world results. You get 6 shots instead of 5 shots in small frame cylinders. While 10% … Stay tuned! In part 2 see the chronograph results and accuracy test. If you belong to the “12 inch minimum tribe,” it’s not the load for you. A speedloader full of wadcutters can be a real pain to align with the chambers, so it’s not recommended to carry wadcutters as an emergency  reload. I like him, instead of arguing with him I made him into a meme ….. another story. .380 SERIOUSLY struggles to flip the paddles around, and .38 special is only marginally better. when it comes to handguns. Fast shooting groups (from low ready) were all in an 8″ target at 30-40 feet. Airgun hunters – in particular – will find this an interesting discussion! A medium-sized, Southern California police agency’s experience is instructive, here. Reloading your own is a great way to learn about your ammo, and develop loads that work for your practice, and to find out what your upper level of recoil tolerance is. it’ll be hard to have truly repeatable results. Thanks again for the great articles! A lot of guys that load their carry gun with wadcutters will use something different for their reload, like a speed strip with Gold Dots, for example. So now I carry my 45 in the woods. Where the numbers restart at “1” consider that an indentation. The research done during the years of the “caliber wars” brought us to this point, and it is a good place to be. Even more experienced shooters using a steel frame revolver will typically find that they can get accurate follow-up shots much quicker with wadcutters than with most other loads. In part 2 see the chronograph results and accuracy test. The solution was the .38 Special, 148 grain wadcutter. A hyper-accurate load with vicious recoil that is too stout to manage will not allow the required practical accuracy that we need; 3. To standardize the data as much as possible, not all loads LuckyGunner tested are displayed. The pellets were shot from a 20 FPE .22 cal PCP air rifle. Interesting write-up. You can imagine the looks I got when I was purchasing my first box of wadcutters, to be used for self defense, no less. And they have the advantage of being economically priced, so you can afford to spend all the range time you want with your carry load. Good overview for the uninformed. Outdoorsman can have a 15+1 pistol with 200gr hard cast loads for black bear or mountain lion defense. 365-Day, Money-Back Guarantee. Our shooter’s level of strength, skill and experience didn’t currently allow them to control these powerful loads sufficiently enough to rely on them for defensive duty (including the .38+Ps).

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